Wednesday, February 20, 2013

Rebellion timing... stuff.

Yeah. I needed to post this, I just didn't post it yesterday for some reason, and I was putting off posting it the day before because I'd already spammed you with posts. So. Posting it now. post post post!

Oh, but, btw, don't miss the updates I posted yesterday.

Anyway, this came up back when I was writing that conversation between Q and Amaryllis. ch...something of Can't Escape. I think the chapter was called "Forbidden Meeting". I was working on timing, trying to figure out just how long it'd been since they'd last seen each other.

I actually mentioned said timeline thingy in the chapter itself. Huh. (well, the author's note before the chapter)

Now, to the explanation!!
I'm sort of just copying this from the word doc, so apologies for any confusing thingies that might show up

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See, I placed the Rebellion beginning and Saix going on a rampage at about the same time: shortly after the Truth Hurts. Logical, yes, because that would be when the Program was handed over to SAix and many of the Replicas were like "no, we don't want to do this".

However, after thinking about it, I realized that wasn't accurate. The Rebellion isn't really mentioned until Nothing's Fair, and there's a three a half month gap between the Truth Hurts and Nothing's Fair. (There's a three month gap between the Truth Hurts and Falling to Pieces, and FtP takes all of two weeks). And when the Rebellion's first mentioned, it isn't obvious, just whispers of it starting; the full out Rebellion cannot have begun before Nothing's Fair -- Roxas has absolutely no trouble going to CO, which he would've had if the Rebellion truly started before then.

So the Rebellion truly begins (as in it stops being "a few Replicas working against Saix" to "Replicas with Riku vs. Replicas with Saix") sometime during Nothing's Fair. Most likely, about a month or so after it begins (so, roughly a month into Riku's search for Sora).


Backing up, let's say a few weeks--a month at latest--after the Truth Hurts, the Program is handed over to Saix, and there is minor unrest. Many Replicas go rouge, though it isn't enough for Saix to be extremely worried; he figures he's better off without them. (Most of them are Vexen Replicas who were extremely loyal to the Original Vexen.)
Saix begins purging the Program of mistakes--namely, the kids. He probably doesn't kill them all at once, but instead picks out the ones with defects and starts with them, narrowing it down until the only kids left are the ones with absolutely nothing wrong with them.

As time wears on, more Replicas either go rogue or migrate to CO. Saix never sets foot in CO, so it isn't hard for Replicas who want to avoid him to hide there. When Riku shows up in CO, many of the Replicas there start working "for" him, figuring that they'd rather be on his good side if Saix were to come hunt them down. They likely believed that if Saix ever did set foot in CO, Riku'd end up battling and possibly even killing him.

The Rebellion starts becoming noticeable as more and more Replicas defect to "Riku's" side. About a month or so after Riku shows up in CO, Saix has lost so many Replicas that he loses it (goes berserk, lol). He gathers all the Replicas he still has control over and tells them that if they aren't going to be loyal to him and the Organization, they best run now and stay out of his site, before he summons his claymore and starts killing Replicas.

Chaos ensues. (This is the chaos battle mentioned on the Replica page)

Whatever kids are left are killed in this battle (minus Joseph, who 29 has probably already relocated to Castle Oblivion), and few Replicas that aren't loyal to Saix escape the battle. Amaryllis and Snapdragon are the only two people known to have done so.
Actually, Snapdragon spends a lot of time fighting in said battle and kills many Replicas loyal to Saix before eventually retreating to CO.

It is likely that many of the Zexion Replicas are still around during this battle, and Alpha is the only one among them who is against Saix. This could be how/where he was betrayed by his three best friends (see the first questions thingy, ch27  of  ASAS if you don't remember this), but I'm considering other possibilities. If Alpha is present during this battle, he'll fight his way to a computer (either in TWTNW, or retreating to CO) where he disables his brethren and possibly other Replicas.

Of course, I realize there is a small continuity issue here, as the passwords for Disabling are the original passwords, and Alpha can't know those because they haven't been changed. So, I suppose he was using a hack to get into the computer and the hack eventually stopped working. Or he found a computer that someone had forgot to log out of and therefore didn't need to enter any passwords. I hate continuity errors. I wish I could snap my fingers and fix them all, but for the moment I'll just have to ask to kindly turn a blind eye, while I come up with excuses. There are too many continuity things for me to go through and fix. Though I might rewrite Nothing's Fair... just because its so short and that's where the worst of the continuity errors are.

According to Nothing's Fair, it is roughly a month before all connection is cut off between TWTNW and CO. The reasons for this are likely just that it isn't immediately clear that all the Replicas in Rebellion against Saix reside there.

Yup.

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That's it. If you've got questions, just ask!

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